Vile Police Website Reveals Violent Conspiracy
The disgusting Inspector Gadget website is at it again. Go take a look if you want your eyes opened to the corrupt, barely literate, violence-obsessed, rabid scum that masquerades as our police force. They are salivating in delight at their frenzy of brutality on Thursday and eagerly anticipating more opportunities to beat up our children next week.
I support the real police. There are evil, subversive forces hiding behind and amongst the students. Those who are violent and only trying to ferment anarchy need to be stopped but they are on both sides. There are far too many of them wearing a police uniform and they deserve the most severe punishment of all.
It is outrageous that they are allowed to commune, plot and scheme with each other like this. They are paid not to have opinions like these and to stay calm and neutral. They are incapable of doing the job. Inspector Gadget should be closed down. Any officer who participates in it is not fit to hold the Queen’s warrant.
These are a selection of comments made by those who we pay to protect our children:
“I don’t think you can hurt a student by hitting them on the head.” Posted by “Fee”
“Good point, get chainsaws and cut their legs off then. That will slow them down a bit.” Posted by Taff Taff
“Shields advance… Fix bayonets. Charge…..Good luck troops.” Posted by BeePee
“Good cavalry charge at that protest, the only thing missing were the pig sticklers used in days of Yore.” Posted by Bodrules
“Time to get hard and nasty!” Posted by Ranter
“A few well placed live rounds and the ‘protest’ would stop in an instant.” Posted by ExTrafficBiker
See more of this disgusting behaviour here.
And this, the Taser equivalent of a claymore mine, is the sort of weapon that the Inspector and his cronies want for next time:
“absofuckinglutely ideal for this situation” Posted by Taff Taff
“I WANT THESE. SWEEEEET.” Posted by Goinwibblebobby
Wake up Britain! This is the mindset of the overpaid, mindless thugs and sadists that are supposed to be protecting our children.
This is the consequence of a government that hides in its ivory towers, refuses to engage with the people, conspires with the media to silence dissent and is a betrayal of everything that democracy stands for. And I speak as a Tory!
Peter Reynolds 
Lets arm the police as they state, then they can fix bayonets as they speak, then for fairness lets get some real targets not children and teenagers we will arm them too and they can fix bayonets, I seriously think that the average booby does not have a clue, I know a police officer who served in another part of the world he has personally shot and killed people in the double figure and has had comrades killed they do not have a clue about the sheer horror experienced but seems they wish for that, I think they have it far to easy and have the upper hand if the stakes were levelled and they did experience it their actions would haunt them for the rest of their lives and maybe they would not make such childish comments about fighting unarmed students and schoolchildren, this seriously has me doubting the capability and mentality of our law enforcement officers
Matt Winter
December 11, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Hold on, if your little darling is running headlong at a Police Officer throwing Hammers and petrol bombs has the Police Officer not got the right to protect themsselves?
The majority of these student riotors are not students but rent-a-thug, just out to smack a few heads in. You can hardly say someone has to a demonstration with peace in mind if they are carrying knives, gateposts and the like, with their faces covered up.
If their little darling gets beaten up, perhaps the parents should ask: “Why was my little darling beaten up, and more to the point what was she/he doing their in the first place if it ceased to be a “peaceful demonstration”.
I do not endorse violence by the peace, far from it, they are they are to keep it not stir up trouble, and they need as much discipline as the rioters, for they too are rioters. But lets not assume that all the attendees who get hit, come to equity with clean hands.
The Debt Collector
December 11, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Perhaps the little darlings rather wanted to leave, but were prevented from doing so by the police…
Hattie
December 11, 2010 at 7:57 pm
To extend this little thread, let’s assume you accept that the little darlings were in fact ‘running headlong at a Police Officer throwing Hammers and petrol bombs’, but you imply this was a result of the so-called ‘kettling’ increasing their frustrations?
Then I would direct you to various media outlets – for example Gadget’s ‘disgusting’ blog and the tweets of Gilmour’s mother Polly Samson on the day, where it is abundantly clear that concrete slabs, firebombs and scaffolding poles were used to attack and injure officers two and a half hours before the containment was put in place.
But of course you’ll just ignore this as it doesn’t fit your agenda.
Pocket Notebook Boy
December 12, 2010 at 6:36 pm
I have no doubt that there was extreme violence against the police. I do not ignore it at all. My only agenda is truth and justice. I’ll stand right alongside any copper standing up for peace against some snide, skiver of the hard left who uses violence or vandalism for any reason.
I fully support the present effort to identify the troublemakers and Dave Gilmour’s son should serve at least six months, even if he is at the least serious end of the violence. There are others far, far worse than him.
But none of that changes anything that I have written. Unfortunately, despite massive investment in the last 20 years, the standard of police management and leadership is dire. Kettling is a ridiculous and self-defeating tactic. A cavalry charge into hundreds of young people and children in response to a handful of thugs is reckless and unjustifiable. Too many officers are just completely unfit to be policemen in the first place.
Thanks for joining in. Do you want to take down my particulars in your notebook?
Peter Reynolds
December 12, 2010 at 7:09 pm
A kind offer Mr Reynolds, but taking down your particulars would mean yet more paperwork for me, and I think we both know there’s more than enough bureaucracy in the modern police service as it is.
I shall, as usual, keep checking in occasionally – if only to see how we’re doing in the eyes of your readers. Boa noite to you all.
Pocket Notebook Boy
December 12, 2010 at 7:34 pm
Mr. Reynolds,
What type of crowd control tactics do you think the police should use? Surely you must recognize the potential for violence during these events and the need to some control by the police. Your police do not use CS gas, large OC sprayers, or water cannons. All you have to complaint about is this kettling and the use of horses for crowd control. I really want to hear your suggestions of how they can do it better.
Johnny Law
December 12, 2010 at 8:33 pm
I’m tempted to give you some suggestions Johnny but I’m not claiming to be an expert in crowd control or policing. I’m standing up for justice and asking where are the experts?
There has to be a better solution in the 21st century than a massed assault of 12th century mounted men-at-arms charging at (relatively) unarmed opposition!!
Peter Reynolds
December 12, 2010 at 9:21 pm
So you have no suggestions on how they can do it better and you admit you are not an expert on crowd control tactics. Perhaps the experts have determined that this is the best way to do it.
The police can’t work miracles sir. There is always going to have be some police attempt to maintain order during these protests. Let’s be realistic. When you get large groups like this there is always going to be some people trying to escalate things and the police are going to have to respond. I find it very telling that you have no idea what the police could do better but you are very quick to complain about the tactics that they do use.
I think you should take a look at other countries and how they respond. Your police are risking serious injury by being so restrained with the crowds. If that stuff kicked off in American cities, there would be a much more forceful response.
Johnny Law
December 12, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Well, since you insist, I do think water cannon may be a useful response. I think “snatch squads” are justifiable. I think early intervention with people wearing masks, for instance, is necessary. I think active direction along an agreed route (People MUST be allowed to demonstrate outside parliament) is a good idea.
I think more forceful intervention is justified at times against specific targets.
Generalised brutality like a cavalry charge is a criminal act.
Peter Reynolds
December 12, 2010 at 10:49 pm
Well the police WANT to use water cannons and they want to make more arrests. Unfortunately they are hamstrung by your government who doesn’t want to seem too oppressive. The irony is that they are trying to use lesser tactics but you call those oppressive.
Don’t kid yourself for a second that you won’t turn around and condemn the use of water cannons as excessive force. As soon as that water is turned on, there will be people using it as some ridiculous example of a police state.
I wish they would have large OC dispensers and bean bag rounds. That would disperse the crowd and let them target specific troublemakers.
Johnny Law
December 14, 2010 at 9:44 pm
“The majority of these student riotors are not students but rent-a-thug, just out to smack a few heads in.”
thats a pretty firm set of claims. you didnt say “it seems to me” or “it looks like” at the beginning of that comment so are we to assume you KNOW these to be facts? That the majority were violent thugs and were not students at all?
did you do some sort of research into the demographic of the protesters on the day, walking through the crowd with a clipboard like a fearless and very bored market researcher? or, like most ignorant internet trolls (look it up) are you saying something is a fact when it is just your prejudist (pre-judge and you are prejudist) opinion. Its far better to base your knowledge on facts rather than what you would LIKE to be true based on your existing world view.
also who exactly is renting the rent-a-thugs? I will give you some credit and assume you don’t actually believe the violent individuals who brought weapons were paid to be there. That would be a wacky paranoid conspiracy theory and that, if true, is between you and your therapist.
Your comment loses any potency it had since it seems, on analysis, to be an immature and unresearched attempt to abuse people you have never met.
sandy lewis
December 11, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Very well said Sandy
Peter Reynolds
December 12, 2010 at 10:38 am
Agreed Sandy,
And as for the assertion that some of these little darlings were trying to leave before they were “kettled” as suggested by Hattie, I would ask the question: “What were they doing there in the first place, when it was quite clear that things were out of control long before the mounted Police arrived.
As Peter suggests they were more likely to be from “rent a mob” who are rather like “yore Mods and Skinheads daan at Bryton yah. Out for a good tyme kickin ‘eads in cos it proves Im ‘ard Bastd. ”
I do not endorse some of the manouveres that the Police make, but if you have got a nutcase weilding a piece of fence post with nails in it or holding an even more serious weapon as a firearm or knife, you are not exactly going to say: “…. I say old chap, you wouldn’t mind putting that down for me and run along now…he he he? ”
What was the little Bstd doing there with a weapon in the first place; running away or not.
The Debt Collector
December 17, 2010 at 9:38 pm
since when have the police tried to implement anarchy?
anarchy is not brutality
is is freedom. beating up an innocent protestor doesn’t advocate freedom
J
December 12, 2010 at 2:22 pm
I wish I understood what you mean!
Peter Reynolds
December 12, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Hi Peter from Canada
I am glad that (well, glad is not the word but bear with me) you guys (UK) have the same problem we are experiencing in Canada. See G8-20 meeting in Toronto last summer.
Police forces all over the world have taken the stand of whomever pays their salaries and defending the ideology of the ruling classes. These are the traitors of the worse kind: they don’t even know what they are doing and battling their own kind for meager salaries.
The worse of the worse are of courses the American police forces. See the recent TSA fiasco.
Days like today I feel overwhelmed by it all. I feel that there is no hope. 1% of the population is robbing the 99% blind and getting away with it with the help of the commoners who betray their own.
talesfromthelou
December 12, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Plus ca change, plus la meme chose.
Peter Reynolds
December 12, 2010 at 6:04 pm
Mr Reynolds.
Your résumé indicates that you have knowledge of most things.
It’s a shame that you fail to understand that Gadget’s blog is there for (in the main) police officers to sound off.
Your faux outrage is ludicrous. No doubt your wide experience would have encompassed the bonding/unity that is an essential part of our emergency services? Sounding off with your mates is no different to the macho tales that are common within a group after a few pints.
These are the real police, they were in Parliament Square to protect Parliament and democracy.They were keen to return home uninjured that evening to their partners and families.
If force is used against the police (and it was, look at the videos of a petrol bomb, paint bombs, lumps of concrete, steel poles) they are trained and have the backing of the law to establish public order by the use of force.
MarkMyWords
December 12, 2010 at 6:03 pm
I appreciate your comment. Thank you.
Peter Reynolds
December 12, 2010 at 6:25 pm
Wouldn’t “sounding off with mates” be an apt description of some of the ‘evidence’ provided by police to convict individuals of terrorism offences ?
Wasn’t “going paintballing with your mates” seen as evidence of “preparing for terrorist activities” in the trial of Mohammed Hamid ?
What would happen to any Muslim who was posting on bulletin boards sentiments such as “a few live rounds” should be used, or that people who protest against them should have their legs hacked off with a chainsaw ?
Plus of course there’s always the question of what violence Jody Mcintyre was offering the police when he was dragged from his wheelchair and assaulted ?
Dave
December 15, 2010 at 11:18 am
Right on the button Dave!
Peter Reynolds
December 15, 2010 at 11:57 am
Demo’s by their nature present problems to both parties. The police fail by default as a result of this very nature. Too much, too little, there can be no win. Protesters, be they righteous or not, will inevitably be infiltrated by those intent on chaos.
The police have a very difficult task to manage the expectation of the public, protecting the peaceful whilst, stopping brutality in their midsts. When faced with brutality there is only one available course open, that of overwhelming force. Due to the human density of these sorts of occasions, when this overwhelming force is released, well… there could only ever be innocent protesters hurt. This is hand to hand combat of sorts. What should the police do.. I agree (as I’m sure most police officers would) that hurt innocents at these events is shocking and a wrong but, unless anyone has a fool proof plan for safe containment and the control of those secondary elements intent on fear, aggression and harm then do speak up. I couldn’t think of a plan!
And no, I’m not old bill!
Nick
December 12, 2010 at 8:26 pm
Eloquent words Nick. No sarcasm here – go to the top of the class.
Peter Reynolds
December 12, 2010 at 8:47 pm
“They are incapable of doing the job. Inspector Gadget should be closed down. Any officer who participates in it is not fit to hold the Queen’s warrant”.
Sufficient rope and hangings, Peter.
Every inappropriate police comment which appeared on Gadget’s treacherous blog is logged and recorded in a dedicated off-line database. Gadget and her followers will be identified so that she and her garbage can be removed from public positions and smitten in the pocket.
Dr Melvin 'Banned from most police blogs' Gray
December 12, 2010 at 8:41 pm
She?
Peter Reynolds
December 12, 2010 at 9:14 pm
A gender well concealed by a mean spirited hag, nicht wahr?
More shocking Gadget truths are sure to creep out of Wiltshire PSD woodwork. I strongly suspect she is employed in a civilian, rather than uniformed post.
Dr Melvin 'Banned from most police blogs' Gray
December 12, 2010 at 10:04 pm
It’s a laugh a minute!
When is the results show?
Peter Reynolds
December 12, 2010 at 10:51 pm
There is some good stuff on Gadget, and I was once inclined to think the canteen gossip merely sounding off. Like Melvin, I’m now inclined to see it as an ‘industry’ exploiting something crude.
Well said Peter, though the problems run deep as some of the comments above indicate, sometimes fairly.
allcoppedout
December 13, 2010 at 10:59 am
It’s even more of an “industry” than you might imagine. I wonder just how much income is derived from the sale of his merchandise, and to what extent the grunts are cynically agitated by him simply to create a market for the cheap tat in the first place? He seems to have a steady demand for XL (and larger) sizes though. Perhaps the stereotype of our modern police having doughnut-enhanced girths has a grain of truth in it after all?
Watcher
December 15, 2010 at 9:36 am
I notice that the articles themselves have less and less substance. They’re like some D list celebrity pushing their tacky, ghost-written book on a downmarket, tabloid TV programme. All that seems to matter now is the rabble and their pathetic comments, even fighting over who’s first!
Peter Reynolds
December 15, 2010 at 9:45 am
……even fighting over who’s first!
That’s the target culture coming out. It’s deeply ingrained. Empty minds are always the most malleable.
It is interesting too that comment is rare on the woeful excesses endemic within the police services. I read recently that the wage bill for officers on “gardening leave” (suspended, in plain English), was £53 million over the last 5 years; >25% of them have apparently been suspended on full pay for more than 12 months. Gadget doesn’t seem to have as much to say on this matter as he does about “not getting any respect.” Bless!
Watcher
December 15, 2010 at 10:37 am
Late note:
Diplomats in every region hostile to the UK were also gifted the spectacle of Stasi hauling an invalid from his wheelchair, to drag him down the road.
Dr Melvin 'Banned from most police blogs' Gray
December 14, 2010 at 1:54 pm
And, look! Here is that invalid!
http://www.mitchell-images.com/#/jody-mcintyre/4546538655
Either it was a miracle of Lourdes-ian proportions, or there he is more like Andy Pipkin than anyone (who has an anti-police agenda) is prepared to concede.
I don’t see him being dragged. I see him being carried. And I see his wheelchair being brought as well.
To paraphrase Rik from The Young Ones;
“Publish this and stay fashionable, I don’t think”
Antipodean
December 15, 2010 at 10:04 am
I think you’re guilty of a dreadful slur on this young man. I was referred to this site yesterday and was pleased to see that on another occasion he was treated decenty and properly by police officers. It doesn’t alter my view of what happened to him when he was dragged out of his chair.
My mother uses a wheelchair – sometimes. I have a work colleague who can, just about, walk around in the house with the aid of two sticks but uses a wheelchair when he’s out and about. The fact that Jody can get about to some degree without his wheelchair is good news. It doesn’t change what happened to him. Neither does the fact that he is a bit a of a rabid activist. I disagree with many of his views but nothing, NOTHING, can excuse the way he was treated by those dirty, scumbag coppers.
Peter Reynolds
December 15, 2010 at 11:46 am
Gosh, on one hand you are up-in-arms accusing me of a “dreadful slur”, yet on the other hand, you are happy to claim that the Police were “dirty, scumbag coppers”… Hypocrisy much?
This is from the photographer’s blog and outline his observations of the linked incident…
“Mr McIntyre was in the front row of the crowd and in a very precarious position, especially as he is wheelchair bound.
It was clear from my vantage point that the police moved him as gently as possible and in doing so the officers put themselves in personal danger from the hail of missiles.
Once he had been moved away from the front line to a safe distance, the officers sat him on a low level wall. Mr McIntyre got up and started arguing with an officer.
He was so wound up that he eventually tried to strike an officer and was only stopped from doing this due to the intervention of a famale passer-by.”
A man who is prepared to argue with the very Police who, may very well have, prevented serious injury to Mr. McIntyre and then attempt to strike one of them… One wonders why the Police were “supposedy” rough with him later on. One wonders indeed.
Being a right nobber isn’t exclusive to the able-bodied, you know.
Antipodean
December 18, 2010 at 12:20 pm
There’s nothing hypocritical at all about me calling those particular officers dirty scumbags. In fact consider it repeated as I’d be happy to do so to their faces.
As I told you, I’ve read the photographer’s blog already. I don’t doubt that Jody can be obnoxious, loud mouthed and provocative. I’m also sure that he uses his disability to his advantage at times as well. In your words, I’m quite sure he’s a “right nobber” at times.
None of that justifies his treatment later on in the day and your “supposedly” remark is absurd. Can you not believe the evidence of your own eyes? Maybe you’re like the corrupt District Judge Daphne Wickham who let Sgt Delroy Smellie off scot free, or the other apologists for police brutality that have managed to keep the killer PC Simon Harwood out of jail – so far.
Peter Reynolds
December 18, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Mr Reynolds what do you say to the police officer who was pulled from his horse (footage on liveleak.com) and Pc Jim Mansfield who suffered a blow to the head from a missile which cracked his protective helmet and left him with concussion – Doctors have said he is lucky to be alive and all of this was before containment started that day.
What do you say to those who post on the inspector gadget blog wishing for hundreds more PC Blakelocks?
Im all for criticism however it must be balanced with two sides.
PC Angry
December 15, 2010 at 12:13 am
I deplore any violence or injury. Anyone who wishes for “more PC Blakelocks” is my enemy.
Peter Reynolds
December 15, 2010 at 12:57 am
“…what do you say to the police officer who was pulled from his horse”? Fasten your girth-strap properly and you won’t fall off. Incompetent fool that he is!
Bosshammer
December 31, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Still peddling your swivel-eyed bat-shit crazy, tinfoil hat theories and agenda i see. Won’t bother returning here again; i like my blogs intelligent and grounded in this little thing called reality.
TheBinarySurfer
December 15, 2010 at 12:48 am
Well I doubt that you will be missed.
Who or what are you hiding behind that ridiculous pseudonym anyway?
Peter Reynolds
December 15, 2010 at 12:54 am
Aah, the adjective spewing BiNasty Sufferer. Please note my views on police misconduct (no shortage of that commodity) are censored by Gadget because unlike you, I find it impossible to support corrupt and worthless elements within UK police.
Would you care to explain your fascination with young people’s blogs and relate the reasons why you came to be banned from them, BiNasty?
Dr Melvin 'Banned from most police blogs' Gray
December 15, 2010 at 4:43 pm
If they were to use large shields rather than the dustbin lids, they could be formed up in shield walls, that didn’t require the use of a baton (if fact, using specialist shields with devices to link shields, it would be impossible to use a baton)
They don’t use these shields because they’re “too threatening” or “too heavy” according to the police. It’s bollocks. We used large shields quite effectively in public order situations in Iraq, and despite coming under quite intense attack, we weren’t forced to use our baton guns to keep back the crowd.
Pinkie Liberal...
December 15, 2010 at 1:37 am
I can’t stand these goddamn pinkie liberals . They talk so much common sense. Can’t we just wade in and crack a few heads? Come on, what did I get out of bed for?
Peter Reynolds
December 15, 2010 at 2:08 am
What I find depressing in this Peter is the way people take sides, rather than look at what is going wrong on all sides. Not accusing you mate – these are valid concerns that should be dealt with without seeing anyone pointing them out as the enemy.
allcoppedout
December 15, 2010 at 6:59 am
The Inspectorgadget blog provides a useful social service; it is somewhere for the Neanderthal element of our finest to congregate and expose their thoughts and attitudes for what they really are. The corollary of this is that readers then can then reinforce their stereotypes of to-day’s Police – to the detriment of the members of the service who have climbed up the evolutionary ladder a bit further. The more moronic of the posters there are most-definitely not the sort you would wish to come into contact with but, in all likelihood, we will become acquainted with them as time goes on; from their ranks will appear the individuals whose paths will inevitably become intertwined with those of the IPCC and PSD’s.
I tried posting there a few times myself but soon found that polite and rational argument does not sit easily with them. Just the opposite, in fact. Being “off message” I found that my posts were edited to give a wholly different perspective and/or meaning and, amusingly (to me), one of them was replaced with a whining complaint about being unable to travel abroad due to being on the sex-offenders regiter. How drole! I did send him a post querying whether he extended this behaviour to routinely altering or inventing offical statements too but he had a sense of humour failure at that point.
I’m glad to have found a blog that acts to highlight the inherent unpleasentness of the Inspectorgadget blog.
Watcher
December 15, 2010 at 10:10 am
Now look ‘ere young fella me lad. You’re very welcome as long a you stick to the speed limits and remember, alcohol, all other recreational drugs and lewd sexual behaviour is for over 18s only, OK?
Peter Reynolds
December 15, 2010 at 11:39 am
What, Officer? No hedonism for yoof? All right, I’ll come quietly, please just make sure I don’t have an “accident” while doing so.
Watcher
December 15, 2010 at 1:25 pm
Sut down the site? Steady on Peter, free speech should allow everyone to make a ass of themselves (not just you and me).
When Police routinely moan about “paperwork” I get the nagging feeling that they mean they would like to see the Police and Criminal Evidence Act (PACE) repealed.
This was introduced to help prevent the kind of injustices we saw vis-a-vis the Birmingham Six, Guildford Four et al. If they think about this for a moment, do they REALLY want to return to the glorious days of Inspector Knackers’ fit-up room?
Doctordrink
December 15, 2010 at 11:06 am
From a brief survey of the poor spelling, puncuation and grammar displayed by the contributors to the Inspectorgadget blog, I can readily understand why completion of routine paperwork does not appeal to many of them.
Watcher
December 15, 2010 at 11:13 am
Says the man who spells ‘droll’ as ‘drole’ (see Watcher’s post at 10.10am)
PPLLover
December 30, 2010 at 3:39 pm
“These are a selection of comments made by those who we pay to protect our children:”
Children who should have been at school!
Peter who??!! Numpty.
scotbruce
December 15, 2010 at 6:57 pm
@pinkie Liberal makes an interesting point about the use of the large public order shields, however, none of these would be needed if ‘protesters’ weren’t throwing fales and lumps of concrete at the Police and trying to hit them with scaffolding poles.
I also suspect that when he was in Iraq in a public order situation, you had somethig hanging over your shoulder with the numbers 5.56 engraved somewhere on it. In my (similar) experience, it’s always a good mmotivator to keep the crowd at bay.
Cockney Copper
December 15, 2010 at 8:12 pm
Who thinks Peter got turned down when he tried to join the police?
Exonerated
December 15, 2010 at 10:26 pm
Probably because of my long and continuing record of taking as many recreational drugs as I can get my hands on.
Peter Reynolds
December 15, 2010 at 10:57 pm
Please may I ask as to the origins of your blog identity, “Exonerated”? Would this exoneration perchance stem from having had something to do with (reluctantly)assisting a force PSD or the IPCC with an inquiry?
Do tell.
Watcher
December 17, 2010 at 5:25 pm
I’d be interested as well! Or maybe you got turned down by the police?
Do tell?
Peter Reynolds
December 17, 2010 at 8:01 pm
The vicious stabbing of two officers earlier to-day has got Ring-InspectorGadget and his apes well and truly agitated.
Rather than contenting themselves with simply wishing the two victims well, his tools are using this latest crime against their own to lobby one another about being permanently armed.
The indignation of the wannabe Harry Callaghans is in full flow and the testosterone is running freely. No doubt most will later be retreating to a vigourous masturbation session with the latest edition of ‘Guns ‘n’ Ammo’ or whatever serves as the Police analogue of conventional pornography.
Dream on, boys! Santa won’t be bringing them for you, no matter how much Gadget encourages you to stamp your little feet and spit your dummies out.
Watcher
December 16, 2010 at 12:18 am
Before anything else, I give ultimate respect and concern for the officers concerned and their families.
If it was necessary, I wouldn’t have a problem with tightly regulated, more overt arming of the police.
I need to see some evidence of “necessity” first.
Peter Reynolds
December 16, 2010 at 12:51 am
@watcher.
If it was your job to go and confront these violent deranged people who want to kill you, you may well end up having a similar opinion to some of the contributors to Gadget’s blog……but we’ll never know will we.
Your pseudonym says it all.
Cockney Copper
December 16, 2010 at 5:44 pm
Gadget rabble contributors display a spelling standard which has everyone confused….so we may never know if your own pseudonym has two unnecessary letters.
MTG
December 16, 2010 at 7:52 pm
What?
Cockney Copper
December 17, 2010 at 1:17 pm
Oh dear. It sounds like someone’s not going to be getting a Glock for Christmas this year, and that little someone’s not happy about it. Ah well, never mind.
When you use the phrase “violent, deranged people” (I’ve added the correct puncuation for you), to whom are you referring? Because there could be confusion? Would these be the violent, deranged people such as Mark Andrews, Simon Harwood, Delroy Smellie, the murderers of Jean Charles de Menezes Tomlinson et al. The list goes on and on, and you are correct; I don’t want to confront them, but in the interests of natural justice and a desire to stand up to bullying thugs, I feel I must.
Now, toddle off back to your puppetmaster in Ruralshire and mind how you go.
Watcher
December 16, 2010 at 9:13 pm
I flatly refuse ever in my life to use that three letter abbreviation that starts and finishes with an L and has an O in the middle – however appropriate it may be.
I shall just say “Jolly good show old boy!”
Peter Reynolds
December 16, 2010 at 9:35 pm
Thanks for adding a coma for me. Didn’t you do well. I don’t know how I managed to struggle through my masters degree with such poor punctuation.
The violent deranged person that I’m referring to is the one that (allegedly) stabbed the PCSO and tried to cut the throat of the PC a couple of days ago, and the hhugely difficult job that the Police face on a daily basis dealing with such people.
I haven’t made any comments about any of the other people you’ve mentioned, but I’m fairly sure that all of those incidents have been investigated in microscopic detail. I’m not remotely interested in your obvious obsession with conspiracy theories, but am simply annoyed but your apparent lack of ability to offer some level of understanding about the very difficult job the Police has to do.
Thousands of Police officers go to work every day to provide a public service and make a contribution to society.
I lock up rapists, burglers, robbers, muggers, predatory sex offenders, car thieves and violent drunks who beat up their wives and kids. Does that make me a bullying thug?
What do you do? What contribution do you make? Are you a teacher, a nurse, a fireman, do you volunteer? Or do you just sit at home making snide comments about the Police?
Cockney Copper
December 17, 2010 at 1:35 pm
I encourage you to stay involved here, Cockney. All decent people appreciate and respect the tough job that our honourable coppers do. All the more reason to root out the bad ones.
MTG (aka Melvyn) is just a laugh a minute. As for Watcher, he’s very bitter about something. I’ve got my eye on him (and his spelling and punctuation)!
Peter Reynolds
December 17, 2010 at 1:50 pm
Very bitter? Of course I’m very bitter! I’ve loyally supported Aston Villa for a couple of decades and just look at them! Beaten by Birmingham City for Christ’s sake, amongst an extensive back-catalogue of underachievement. Of course, I blame the Police!
Now Cockney Copper, my name is Andy. Tell me yours and we can trade ad hominem insults freely. However, don’t try and brag your qualifications, because you will almost certainly come a poor second. N.B “masters degree” needs a capital ‘M’ and a possessive apostrophe.
I can’t divulge the nature of my occupation as (truthfully) it is bound by the Official Secrets Act. Suffice to say I am a private-sector scientist (and a DV’d one). Perhaps this excludes me from your list of “essential contributors” to society? Society does need some people to actually generate real income for the nation, you know. This enables government to throw it to the service providers as largesse.
With regards to your statement about who you lock up, in most respects you may well be correct. However, I believe it would be more accurate for you to describe them as SUSPECTED rapists, burglers, robbers etc. These sorry individuals only become convicted felons after being dealt with by the judiciary; they are not awarded that cachet by the Police. This might seem a trivial, even pedantic distinction, but it is a very important one, and it lies at the heart of most of the accusations levelled against the Police regarding their more egregiously poor behaviour. Even though you don’t genuinely consider yourself to be part of the problem
you casually fail to recognise that you have unwittingly crossed that dividing line, no matter how well-intentioned.
The people to whom I referred have indeed had their cases looked at in microscopic detail. Sadly, it seems that by and large, the people doing the looking were not necessarily the sort that should have been entrusted with the task in the first place. Once again we witnessed the distressing tendency to cover up, make specious excuses and generally drag things out over breathtakingly ridiculous timescales. Tell me, just how long does it take to watch a video of a man being pushed over from behind and decide whether or not it went beyond acceptable standards of conduct. I’m not talking about whether a crime was committed, just whether that sort of behaviour is acceptable in a public ofice, or any other occupation for that matter A bigger objective lens is needed in your metaphorical microscope, don’t you think!
But, to get serious, if you are advocating GepettoGadget’s “blog” as being a worthy outlet for the sociopathic element of the Police to let off steam and fling their turds around like truculent chimpanzees – and all the while doing it in the public gaze – then you need some serious recalibration. Unproffessional doesn’t even come close as a description – Blackbeard wouldn’t have sailed with that lot as a crew!
“Gadget” is no more than a ranting locker room demagogue stirring everyone up and stoking his own agenda instead of trying to do something constructive to ameliorate the problems he rails against. I don’t know “Gadget” but, believe me, I know his type, and whenever the call comes for people to actually speak up and publicly address some of the problems with their perceived failings of “management” they are invariably the last in the queue to do so.
So, Cockney Copper, M.B.A., I can either debate politely and amicably with you…….or switch my sarcasm gene on. Press the red button now. Oh, and please pass the message on to the “Tackleberrys” drooling over at Gadget’s blog that a sexy Sig Sauer outperfoms a Glock any day, and that thankfully, few of them will ever get to make the comparison.
Watcher
December 17, 2010 at 3:58 pm
Very well said Andy and nice to meet you.
I just love it when people start coming out all honest and straightforward!!
I admire your use of language as well.
I’m v.v.v.v. fascinated by what sort of scientist you are but I don’t suppose you’re going to tell me – are you?
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Peter Reynolds
December 17, 2010 at 7:34 pm
A number of brief points:
It’s Cockney Copper MSc.
Your obsession with punctuation is admirable but ultimately boring, so I’ll not bother correcting your typos.
I should hope that a scientist would normally out-qualify a Policeman.
Since you’re politically leftwing and liberal, the fact that the necessity of your work makes you a capitalist is great irony.
I’m still not remotely interested in your conspiracy theories. The Police are not responsible for the Criminal Justice System, politicians are. If you don’t like it, run for office.
The people I listed were all convicted offenders, the fact that they were only suspected of the offence at the time of their arrest is so obviously true it’s not worth stating.
You are the only person here that is obsessed with guns.
..and my main point, you still can’t quite find it in yourself to admit that the Police to a difficult and dangerous job, for which the general public should be thankful.
I disagree vehemently with much of what Peter has said on his blog, but he has at least repeatedly done that.
Cockney Copper
December 17, 2010 at 8:38 pm
Watcher is a well educated and very decent chap otherwise I am in full agreement with Peter. Contrary to Gadget propaganda, I do support honest police officers – even those in Cockney coma.
MTG
December 17, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Fraudian slip – coma / comma!
Cockney Copper
December 17, 2010 at 8:39 pm
Freudian, man! FREUDIAN! A bit like Jim Naughtie’s little malapropism the other other day. Now there’s a left wing liberal for you – of the highest water, and a prize-winning bullshitter to boot.
I apologise for teasing you about your punctuation. Just me being a little puerile. It’s a tactic that always seems to elicit an indignant repsonse though, and is useful for that reason. People can have any manner of insult aimed at them and bear it stoically but, insult someone’s written English or diction and it cuts to the quick. ‘Every egg a bird’, as they say.
No more gun-related taunts either. I’d post them on GepettoGadget’s blog myself but he blocked me after my querying of his tendency to fabricate statements. He doesn’t welcome criticism, especially not the articulate variety. He seems a very parochial individual.
With regard to your accusation that I don’t acknowledge the difficult and dangerous job the Police do well I would retort that I don’t routinely acknowledge the exertions of sanitation and sewer maintenance teams either, despite the fact that their industry is no less important than anyone else’s when it comes to maintaining the essential services of our society. You can take my support as axiomatic. Please do so, instead of circling the wagons and trotting out the “you’re with us or against us” mantra. Furthermore, please don’t fall into the sterotypical trap that colours everyone who takes a stand against Police excesses as a left wing liberal. A disdain of uniformed bullying and corruption needs no political polarity to succour it. I just don’t like it, my friend. It’s instinctive.
Having a scientific background, I’m intrigued as to your MSc. I had, rathger patronisingly I’ll admit, just assumed it was simply another peel-off-the-roll MBA. What was the subject for which it was conferred?
Watcher
December 17, 2010 at 9:41 pm
You are spot on attacking about grammar someone isn’t you!
You strike a very sensitive nerve. Something to do with our sense of our own educational achievement I think.
Being blocked from Gadget is a badge of honour. Maybe I should even have some made and sell them here at huge profit?
Back in the early 80s I used to participate in a sport called practical pistol. Anyone remember that? I was the proud owner of a Colt .45 Gold Cup. I also shot in the ISU Skeet selection shoot for the Wales team for the 1980 Commonwealth Games. (I didn’t qualify.) My experience of firearms, in common with anyone else who has real knowledge, leads me to a deep respect. I don’t like them to be played with or joked about in any sense.
Your choice of “sanitation and sewer maintenance teams” as a comparison for the police is deliberately offensive although the point is well made.
I think we’re all the best of chums really!
Peter Reynolds
December 17, 2010 at 10:13 pm
And it’s ‘punctuation’, not ‘puncuation’.
There, I’ve added the correct spelling for you.
Again.
PPLLover
December 30, 2010 at 3:43 pm
Actually, my reference to sewer maintenance as a comparison wasn’t at all intended to be offensive, but I apologise if it appeared that way. I simply picked a service that is effectively out of sight and out of mind, but vitally important nevertheless.
Digressing somewhat, but many years ago I was involved with an experimental project that used a species of bacterium that excreted sulphuric acid (yes, really!) as a by-product of its voracious metabolism of the sulphur-containing components of the “brown trout”. This industrious little creature is responsible for the deterioration of drains, culverts and sewers the world over. I learned quite a lot about the attendant engineering problems and dangers therein.
I too was an FAC-holder in times gone by. Sadly, like many thousands of others, I was forced to part company with Messrs. Smith and Wesson following the tragedy at Dunblaine. As I recall, we were assured by John Major that it would result in a safer society for our children……..
Watcher
December 17, 2010 at 11:40 pm
…and hasn’t it just.
Firearms policy and drugs policy achieve pretty similar levels of intellectual and practical excellence.
Peter Reynolds
December 17, 2010 at 11:48 pm
It’s sad to watch as British youths permit themselves to be manipulated by Irish republicans and anarchists (i.e. McIntyre, McDonnell, O’Grady) into attacking their own city, their own police, and London monuments to heroes. I guarantee no Irish students attacked statues of their pantheon of nationalist heroes during their protests. I don’t know about Greece or Italy but I doubt it. What pitiful hatred and self-hatred.
Frank Florentino
December 24, 2010 at 1:17 am
“London monuments to heroes”, like the statue of Churchill, verminous scumbag that he was. What makes you think that youths cannot be students and anarchists? Hatred of imperialism and blind nationalism is not self hatred, unless you are a nationalist. Manipulated by Irish republicans? What!
Bosshammer
December 31, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Bosshammer’s comments show that anarchists are just murderous scum whose only loyalties are to their wallets/pocketbooks/bank accounts.
Frank Florentino
January 8, 2011 at 12:13 am
I thought your article was awesome and will check out typically.
ffeson
August 13, 2012 at 6:36 am