Peter Reynolds

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How To Damage The Cannabis Campaign.

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1. Demand ‘rights’ that are neither reasonable nor necessary:

“We want to prove that cannabis can be consumed safely, peacefully and responsibly in public without causing any harm to society”

2. Choose a venue that:

a. enables police to claim that it :

“is used by children and families”

b. enables the local newspaper to use this photograph:

Eastrop Park

Eastrop Park

3. Fail to apply for permission to hold the event:

“…we have not received an application in regards to this proposed event.”

See this article in ‘This Is Hampshire’:  Pro-cannabis campaigners to hold protest in Eastrop Park

I support the overall aims of the people behind this.  The intention is good but the means are naive, irresponsible and exactly the way NOT to campaign for cannabis law reform.

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Written by Peter Reynolds

September 19, 2013 at 9:02 pm

Posted in Politics

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  1. Is the right to individual freedom of choice neither reasonable nor necessary?
    The venue is a public space covered by the Open Spaces Act 1906, it is for the use of any individual or group of individuals who may choose to do so.
    Does a peaceful assembly require any permissions to hold a protest on public land?

    Al

    September 19, 2013 at 10:14 pm

    • That may or may not be right Al. It still make sense though to be seen to be responsible and co-operative. Ask for permission and simultaneously make a formal complaint about it. This is the intelligent way to deal with such a situation.

      Peter Reynolds

      September 21, 2013 at 11:53 am

  2. Another out of touch piece!

    You have a better chance touching the sun Peter, than you do in getting any credibility from this piece of nonsense!

    Brian

    September 20, 2013 at 1:16 am

    • So do you have any actual argument against what I have written or just an empty assertion with nothing to support it?

      Peter Reynolds

      September 21, 2013 at 11:51 am

      • Surely life’s too short to argue that 1 isn’t 2.

        Yatter

        October 30, 2013 at 1:38 pm

  3. Iv’e got to agree with Al!
    Sorry Peter.

    Greg Taylor

    September 20, 2013 at 8:57 am

  4. Hilarious! ROFL!

    Pemberton Carmichael

    September 20, 2013 at 9:49 am

  5. Ask for permission to hold the event? Peter, as far as I know all these events have been held in public parks where there is absolutely no need to “ask for permission”. In fact, I know for a fact that numerous groups have contacted the police before hand to inform them where they’ll be and what they’ll be doing so as to not cause an unfriendly relationship with the police. You, Peter, are the type of cannabis activist that today’s government love because you appear to be fighting for a cause but in actuality you have never changed anything and I doubt you ever will. Prohibition pushers love someone who does not disrupt the current system in any way and you, Peter, certainly do not. I’m sure there were people just like you around the time Rosa Parks broke the law by sitting in an exclusively white section of a bus. saying “No, no we can’t achieve equality for black people by breaking the law, that would just further reinforce the impression that we are barbaric people.” Well, seemed to work pretty well for Mrs Parks. I think I’ll take note from her, not you. Bye bye Peter, have a lovely day.

    Pete

    September 20, 2013 at 11:38 am

    • Well, Councillor Clive Sanders, leader of Basingstoke and Deane Borough Council, says written permission is required to hold an event in the council-owned park.

      Now Al has put forward the argument above that no permission is required because the park is a public space covered by the Open Spaces Act 1906, it is for the use of any individual or group of individuals who may choose to do so. That may or may not be true but clearly the council expects permission to be applied for and any responsible campaign would see that it is only common sense to ask permission. As is so often the case though, the not so bright sparks involved in planning a cannabis demo think they can be macho and not bother.

      Your comment reveals that you are typical of the sort of cannabis campaigner who thinks its clever to demand ‘rights’, indulge in pointles civil disobedience and harps back to an example from the 1950s to justify it. Perhaps you haven’t noticed but this is the 21st century with 24 hour news and the internet. Rosa Parks and the US civil rights movement existed in a very different world.

      As for your snide remarks about me being “the type of cannabis activist that today’s government love”, you really are a jealous, confrontational chap aren’t you?

      CLEAR has developed a strategy which is about intelligent campaigning, working smarter, using the law and legitimate process against those who seek to oppress us.

      It’s easy for government to deal with protestors, ‘picnics in the park’ and the sort of outdated, backward, ineffectual ideas that you espouse.

      We disrupt the system in a radical and meaningful way by beating it at its own game. You play straight into its hands by being cliched, predictable and so very easy to defeat.

      You have a nice day too but try applying some brain power to how to win this campaign instead of doing the same thing over and over again that hasn’t worked in 50 years.

      Peter Reynolds

      September 21, 2013 at 11:49 am

      • Peter you use words like ‘intelligent campaigning’, and that the CSC method of public protests are ‘backward and ineffectual’ yet have you in any way actually changed the law or the opinions of medicinal and recreational users in the public eyes? No, you have not. If you had actually attended any of these protests you would see that we engage the public in a positive manner, and have positively changed the public image of cannabis use. You also say we are ‘easy to deal with’- In actual fact the government and law enforcement agencies can do nothing but allow these protests to continue; and as for ‘predictable’ yes we are predictable in the way that they know we will not stop, and that we make no attempt at hiding these events and very often invite police, members of the free press and media and local MP’s. Also a slightly off topic remark but i am sure you remember your very public posting of “legal medical cannabis available in the uk’ yet in actual fact you are exploiting a small loophole in the law, which would be quickly closed if everyone used that method publicly- That was your biggest breakthrough in UK legislation apparently, even though you did nothing other than recommend people to break the law and try to use that loophole which isnt an easy task. And would you support those in court (using all these generous donations they give you) who were arrested for trying your method of ‘legal importation’?

        chris- A cannabis club Admin

        September 29, 2013 at 10:02 pm

      • Peter, surely you should know for a fact, if you have ever organised a static protest, whether you need permission or not? I take it you have never organised a static protest then as you are CLEARly unsure of this.
        There is NO legal requirement to inform the police of a static protest on public land. Maybe you should do some research of your own rather than use anecdotal conjecture and hearsay form a councillor instead of well established facts and documented evidence.

        The councillor is correct in saying an ‘event’ but this does not apply to a demonstration as per the Human Rights Act 1998 which states that public bodies have a duty to positively facilitate a protest, which is not an ‘event’. If you had done your due dilligence and read the Hampshire Byelaws you would see the distinction rather than taking a biassed councillors word for it.

        Anyway I feel like I’m doing your work here………………. I suggest you do your own research and get your ‘facts’ straight before you make these sorts of claims and criticisms. They merely indicate your lack of knowledge and understanding.

        http://www.yourrights.org.uk/yourrights/the-right-of-peaceful-protest/static-demonstrations-and-assemblies.html

        http://content.met.police.uk/Article/Organising-a-protest-march-or-static-demonstration/1400002380711/1400002380711
        ‘Static Protests – There is no legal requirement to notify police that you wish to hold a static protest.’

        http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/campaigns/protest/nusliberty-rights-document-a5.pdf

        Open Spaces Act 1906
        http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Edw7/6/25/contents

        Human Rights Act 1998
        http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1998/42/contents

        Surrey Cannabis Club

        October 3, 2013 at 11:48 am


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