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“Ignorant, Misleading And Downright Evil Tabloid Headlines”

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Baroness Joan Walmsley, LibDem peer, during the House of Lords debate on a Royal Commission on drugs policy, 9th March 2011

My Government, who were elected with 60 per cent of the vote, should have the confidence to defy the tabloid newspapers. They should get the facts and act on them. We should not be afraid of ignorant, misleading and downright evil tabloid headlines. It is the right thing to do. Please let us do it!



Watch the debate here from 19:48 onwards. See the full transcript here.

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Written by Peter Reynolds

March 10, 2011 at 11:44 am

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  1. The problem is that they’re all more than happy to say this when they’re in the Lords, but very few them dare to say it when they still face re-election. Which is why we need to promote the repeated polls which suggest that public opinion is not actually as unenlightened as the ignorant, misleading and downright evil tabloid editors would have us believe.

    Jack

    March 10, 2011 at 11:56 am

  2. Holy F… ! This could be what we’ve all been waiting for so long for!

    Nick

    March 10, 2011 at 12:21 pm

  3. I hope so Nick!

    Matthew Lilley

    March 10, 2011 at 12:28 pm

  4. It’s time you politicians grew up and realised we’re intellegent human beings and we have free will, you’re giving billions of “our” hard earned tax money to non-tax paying crooks, it’s not the states job to tell us what we can and cannot consume, marijuana needs to be legalised, regulated and taxed.

    The reason we have a drugs industry is because people like drugs, you cannot regulate what you do not control.

    Crooks don’t care about the quality of the product, the age of the consumer or the youth on youth violence they cause by letting idiots run the bottom end of the distribution chain.

    We need licenced coffeeshops now, make it compulsary to show photo ID at the door and criminal record check, licence and tax the vendor on sales.
    The returns would be huge and go some way to paying off the national debt you lot and your mates in the city have caused.

    Canada, Holland(coffeeshops) and Switzerland(Chemists) where they have toleration and taxation are hardly crime ridden hellholes are they.

    But you just keep burying you heads, you don’t live in a crime ridden council estate, your kids at their nice public school don’t get dragged into crime because the only rich person they know is the local drug dealer.

    It is not the states job to tell us what we can and cannot consume, do your job ie. Manage the tax from our hard work to provide education, healthcare and an infrastructure so us useful productive people can create wealth and employment.

    Tony

    March 10, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    • I agree Tony,

      Politicians are in fact self-serving and have no real interest in Fred Bloggs once they are in power, with one or two exceptions perhaps; but almost certainly with Prime-Minister cf. Thatcher & Blair; bith ego-maniacs.

      The Tabloid Press have always been a pain in the arse with misleading headlines, and self-congratulating articles or distracting peoples’ attentions to Soaps “issues” as opposed to real news. When the language of the Tabloids is using the vocabularly and reading age of about nine years old, it doesn’t leave much hope when combined, the three tabloid papers command an average Cover-Sales of nearly 8 Million.

      This out-ranks the three broadsheets combined sales on a ratio of about 3:1.

      The fact is that with the deliberate dumbing down of society by the last three Governments, most people beleive absolutely what they see and hear in newspapers, TV and Radio. As I have said on many of the subjects on this site, all of this was predicted by George Orwell in 1984.

      The State now SEES’ its Job to indoctrinate, dictate and manipulate the population. The State sees’ its job as a dictatorship, that tells us what we can and cannot do.

      Actually this is nothing new, it is has just become more widespread. The Government since the end of the First World War, and the Treaty of Versailles in 1919, have felt that they need to invade peoples’ privacy more and more; this was accelerated by WW II, where “The Home Service” on the “Wireless” told people to: “Stay tuned, and the BBC shall tell you what you need to do and the instructions you need to follow” (or words to that effect).

      In fact, it (and the Government) still does, just more subtly through Soaps such as The Archers, East Enders, Emmerdale Farm etc where the plot line invaribly follows the line of the Political issues of the day.

      Even Logi Baird, upon the invention of the Television stated: ” I have now created the biggest time wasting machine ever to be invented”…and boy, was he right. As we have seen with Al Zaheerer (sorry about the spelling) the greatest spreader of propaganda any Government of any Country could wish for.

      Like the Proles in “1984”; we have become a generally dumbed down society, so that it is easier for Government (of whichever colour) to control.

      Now we have computerisation to such a degree even getting to talk to a human on the phone without going through a dozen layers of Menu, and then having to hold for someone who is ill-educated in the subject they are dealing with.

      Frankly I see no future in this Country; and as for “mending broken Britain”, we are going to be in Intensive Care for a long time. The main problem now lies with the fact that with such a dumbed down society, nobody knows anything or have the imagination to break out of the circuit; and those with the investment funds to refloat this Country will not invest because they are worried that when they do start to make money, they will be taxed to smitherines.

      As for the skilled personnel, they too will leave the Country, for being a success is in the decaying Country is now a swear word.

      The problem however seems to be world-wide and begs the question if I were to leave the Country; where would I go?

      The Debt Collector

      March 11, 2011 at 7:36 pm

  5. I found that statement thoroughly refreshing and inspirational, I just hope the clear thinking minority can influence the mostly ignorant majority..

    cannaseur

    March 10, 2011 at 12:50 pm

  6. But it is not just tabloid newspapers, it also goes, and perhaps more so, for people with official and political responsibilities, like those in the Home Office, Baroness Neville-Jones and the Prime Minister himself!

    Gart Valenc
    http://www.stopthewarondrugs.org

    Gart Valenc

    March 10, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    • they call them “key delivery partners ” , thats not what i call them , no doubt they are all taking a cut

      boss

      March 10, 2011 at 7:08 pm

  7. The question is, will they pursue this or is it just more talk. Lets see what Baroness Wamlsley is made of? She needs to push forward with this momentum. Think she deserves our prayers tonight.

    Nick

    March 10, 2011 at 2:32 pm

  8. I emailed my thanks to the baroness here

    Info@joanwalmsley.org.UK

    dump_pharma

    March 10, 2011 at 3:16 pm

    • Just a quick update. The good baroness mailed me by return yesterday

      “Thanks ******. We will continue to try to use our influence.”

      At least the lords have the decency to talk to the people

      Dump_pharma

      March 17, 2011 at 3:56 pm

  9. The fact is that the Tabloids have always relied on ignorance of their readership, and see themselves as the biggest opinion swayers in the Country.

    I remember when first doing recovery work and writing to our clients, being told that the two (then) biggest selling papers were The Sun and The Mirror; opposite ends of the political spectrum. One of the reasons was that they used short sentances and very simple concepts and that on the whole the people who purhased copy “first hand”; usually had a reading age of 10.

    The vast majority of readers do not read more than the head line, and probably the first two paraphs, so the “punch” has to be in the heading. To that end it was no point in using fancy language unless your really had to (I was in litigation at the time).

    Rather like your Government, the Tabloids rely on the average bears’ ignorance to brainwash and push through legislation which may not be to their advantage.

    Rather like the Pensions issue, the legalisation of Cannabis is a Political time-bomb ticking away.

    The Debt Collector

    March 10, 2011 at 5:02 pm

  10. Great Debate. So let me get this strait in my head if you could?
    So a bunch of the HMG lords dont think that the misuse of Drugs act is worth the paper it’s written on anymore! LOL LOL

    And that the re-classification of Cannabis under that Utter complete hypocrite Jaci spliff and Gordon Clown was utterly unscientific and based on prejuidice.

    Paul Smith

    March 10, 2011 at 5:50 pm

  11. Here is a transcript of a debate initiated by Baroness Meacher last June, on the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime discussion paper ‘Treating Drug Dependence through Healthcare, not Punishment’.

    http://www.theyworkforyou.com/lords/?id=2010-06-15a.948.0

    pjmcneill

    March 10, 2011 at 10:20 pm

  12. Baroness Meacher has a realy good grasp on the issue – hopefully she can “canvass” more members of the lords and enlighten them so they can put pressure on the commons.

    The UNODC paper is a very good read and should be rammed down Baroness Neville-Jones and the Prime Minister’s throat at every opportunity.

    Mr Bimble

    March 10, 2011 at 11:32 pm

  13. If anything will hasten the dissolution of the Lords, then this is it. Even with a right wing government in place, if the upper house tries hard enough to show up the commons for what they are, they’ll hasten their own demise.

    NobblySan

    March 11, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    • Whatever they do, we will still have an “upper house”: the question is how this body is appointed.

      An elected house, rather than appointments being made due to hereditary privilege and religious rank, could still have the clout to challenge the government on issues such as this.

      And it is likely to still consist largely of members of senior age, who do not have careers to forge, and have the experience and independence of mind to see to the heart of the argument.

      pjmcneill

      March 12, 2011 at 2:10 pm

  14. Check this out guys:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1365661/Cigarette-display-ban-I-wrong-smoking-Im-right-cannabis.html

    Peter Hitchens at his drivel speaking best. Do you think anyone has taken the time to explain to him that he’s perceived to be such a cock?

    Nick

    March 14, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    • When the USA federally legalises I’m actually quite looking forward to his rants devoid of evidence. But then they’ll be actively debunked by America not falling apart. He must be ashamed that his brother took on tony Blair whilst in the grip of oesophagal cancer and all he can muster is a half hearted whine once in a while.

      Still, not much to be done but sit back and let him pen his shitty little pompous articles, he’s a wibble.

      Sam

      March 15, 2011 at 12:47 am

  15. Professor Nutt gave an interview to radio 4 this morning, its repeated at 9:30 tonight and then it should be on Iplayer.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00zf6qv

    Bob

    March 15, 2011 at 10:06 am

    • cheers for posting, good interview.

      jimbob

      March 15, 2011 at 9:34 pm

      • Something else quite interesting too…

        http://www.nisnews.nl/public/120311_1.htm

        “UTRECHT, 12/03/11 – Utrecht city council wants to give cannabis users the possibility of growing their drugs themselves legally. This would have to be done within closed clubs under government supervision.

        The council wants to offer “adult recreational users” the possibility of growing cannabis in small-scale associations in a regulated and controlled manner. The most important aim of this plan, according to a spokeswoman, is “protection of public health” by giving users control of the quality of the cannabis. “Another additional advantage is that cannabis-growing would thereby be removed from illegality.”

        The council expects some 100 to 150 users to be involved in the experiment. The intention is that the experiment should be carried out during the present term of the city council. Because the plans for it are still at an early stage, little detail is yet known about how it will be worked, said the spokeswoman.

        Public Health Alderman Victor Everhardt also wants to change the policy regarding risky groups for cannabis usage, for example people who are being treated for schizophrenia. The aim of this experiment is to bring down excessive cannabis usage to controlled usage, according to the council. “This will take place under medical supervision or under the supervision of an institution for psychiatric healthcare. Cannabis usage under medical supervision is part of the treatment plan for this group.””

        jimbob

        March 15, 2011 at 9:46 pm

  16. Those who, for political or selfish reasons fail to get to grips with chronic and systemic drug policy failure are as responsible for the poor outcomes and unintended consequences as those who would deliberately create such a dysfunction policy intending for those outcomes to serve their ends. It is called non-feasant responsibility.

    Blair Anderson

    March 16, 2011 at 6:43 am

  17. […] The list of lords that spoke out in favour of progressive measures in current drug law shows to some degree that this issue has long been dominated by media intervention over content.  No more can this ethic be seen than by Baroness Joan Walmsley, LibDem peer, during the House of Lords debate on a Royal Commission on drugs policy, 9th March 2011 “My Government, who were elected with 60 per cent of the vote, should have the confidence to defy … […]


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