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Clearing The Smoke: The Science Of Cannabis

with 26 comments

This excellent new documentary from MontanaPBS features Dr Lester Grinspoon, Dr. Igor Grant, Director of the Center for Medicinal Cannabis Research and Dr. Eric Voth,  Drug Policy Advisor to Presidents Reagan, Bush Senior, Clinton and Bush Junior.

You can watch the film here.

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Written by Peter Reynolds

March 4, 2011 at 12:43 pm

26 Responses

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  1. Cannabis has completely inspired several aspects in my life. I don’t know where I would be without it.

    Stephen

    March 4, 2011 at 9:54 pm

  2. Peter,

    Your obsession with Cannabis does make wonder whether it is indeed a mind altering drug. Your rants about the subject are on a par with the fanatics who support the likes of Al Queda (sorry about the spelling) and the power obssessed of the IRA.

    I wish you would smoke enough to kill yourself:

    1. To prove to you it is a dangerous drug
    2. To stop hearing your pathetic rantings about the
    matter; in the same obsessed manner of a 3 year old
    who can’t get their own way.

    Waaaah

    Grow up man

    The Debt Collector

    March 4, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    • “The Debt Collector” You prove your ignorance in your own post..
      You say “I wish you would smoke enough to kill yourself”

      Now if you knew anything about cannabis then you would know that this is a physical impossibility due to the extremely low toxicity of cannabis.

      It is ignorance and bile like this that Peter and many others are fighting against.

      Dan

      March 5, 2011 at 9:06 am

      • You are fighting against ignorance?

        People were endorsing smoking up until the 1960’s; now it is forbidden fruit, and proven to kill.

        Take enough of any drug, including anti-convulsants which I HAVE to take and they will kill you -eventually. Most Cancer Patients rarely die of the condition, they die of renal failure caused by the drugs.

        Agreed I know little about cannabis but having read articles on other sites about the substance these do not stand up to the near hysterical rantings of Duncan et al. would seem to confirm the issues regarding paranoia etc which can be caused by the drug.

        You admit in part that Canabis is toxic, albeit in your view to a low level. And as for the ignorance that you and Peter are “Fighting against”, have you had an article published in your name, and are you medically qualified?

        If so it would be interesting to read your comments in support of the drug in the broadsheet press; perhaps a documentary on TV; even an entry in the British Medical Journal.

        The Debt Collector

        March 17, 2011 at 12:34 pm

      • perhaps you’d like to look at the studies of former UK head drug advisor Professor David Nutt who was fired because his scientific, empirical conclusions were not in line with the political agenda of the political party in power (or any UK party that is likely to get elected)

        spolodaface

        April 6, 2011 at 11:51 am

      • proven to kill my ass! marijuana doesnt kill, it saves lives! find me this proof and i’ll believe you, but i have a good feeling you wont find any looool

        spencer

        October 1, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    • Why do you deem it childish that someone has an informed and balanced view of a substance?

      Would you consider it more adult of Peter to believe cannabis is dangerous, contrary to currently available research?

      It is you who needs to grow up, contribute something solid to the discussion, or leave and bother someone else.

      Ed

      March 5, 2011 at 11:14 am

      • When you say: “..contribute something solid to the discussion and bother someonelse”; is that to say by not comming to the same conclusion, or daring to contradict, my comments are not “solid” and that I must be wrong?

        By the term “informed and balanced view of the substance”; I have yet to hear Duncan actually provide the source of his research, nor provide a balanced opinion other than it is harmless. People who are on more serious drugs like cocaine and heroin feel that they are harmless, would provide a “balanced” opinion in their eyes and other users of that substance.

        Perhaps he would provide me with the texts or medical journals by name , so that I could learn from these teachings at perhaps change my view.

        In the meantime the rantings of Duncan and now you seems to confirm that my thoughts about little boys throwing stroppys because they can’t get their own way seems to make my thoughts more accurate than I anticipated.

        I would be interested to see you marching on Parliament, to make the substance legal, since if the Government are proposing to stop smoking anything in Public, I see little chance of you suceeding with cannabis.

        The Debt Collector

        March 17, 2011 at 10:07 am

    • Perhaps you’d like to ask Professor Roger Pertwee, Professor Les Iversen and Professor David Nutt to grow up also?

      Clearly their collective educations and accomplishments cannot be indicative of adult responsibility and achievement, they must be childish as they have an informed opinion on cannabis!

      You are the child in the room, along with the others who babble the same tired trite about cannabis in the face of irrefutable fact.

      Ed

      March 5, 2011 at 11:17 am

      • Sorry ed, I have only just seen this post.

        Please advise where I contact Proffessors Roger Pertwee, Les Iversen and David Nutt, so I may have sight of their contributions to the argument. And odd that they have not made to a contribution to a board like this.

        And you sound like the “big boy” behind the bike shed at secondary school who is smoking to show how grown up he is.

        The Debt Collector

        March 17, 2011 at 10:12 am

    • So Mr Collector, are you one of the pathetic worthless drunkies we see vomiting and fighting in the street, or are you simply one on the uneducated that has not made the mental effort to read the peer reviewed factual articles on this subject, instead relying on the Mail and Frank as sources of info.

      The only reason Cannabis is not sold using the same supply model as alcohol or tobacco, is that too many people make so much money from prohibition.

      Some people do not want to consume a poisonous compound to get mildly intoxicated or free from pain, and would instead prefer to use a relatively harmless herb innstead.

      Cupid Stund

      March 5, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    • Your not very intelligent. You cannot overdose on Marijuana. 10,000 years of history doesn’t lie. Ass.

      f*** you

      March 17, 2011 at 4:26 am

      • Your comment proves my point: your mind has been fucked by the drug. People claim that they are not addicited to cigarettes, when in fact they are; the same argument can be made about alcoholics.

        “10 000 years of history doesn’t lie”; would you be able to provide details, and documentrary evidence regarding the time scale,for such a remark?

        Is it written in Aztec, Greek or Egyptian recordings, the Bible (which is a dodgy resource anyway)?

        I think you have also contradicited yourself in comment ” …and would prefer to usa a relatively harmless herb instead”. Cigarettes are based on a “relatively harmless herb” but still dangerous, not because of he tobacco leaf itself but the products it is combined with.

        The fact is, Marijuana is a mind altering substance, and 10 000 years of history proves that it is, people get distorted views and fail to talk coherently etc. so by definition it must be mind altering.

        As for the argument that it is a natural pain killer is a nice little cover to hide behind. Even things like paracetamol, and drugs that control my epilepsy have an effect on the body, and I know that my death will be more likely as a result of renal failure not an epileptic fit.

        Like smokers of cigarettes, you want to call it as a stress releiver, pain killer etc, but you are still dealing with a drug, whether it be a “herb” as you describe it or not.

        As for being an ass, you can over-dose on any form of drug, and hiding behind the fact that you see it as a “weed” or “herb”, is rather like saying Deadly Nightshade is a safe “plant”.

        And incidently I do not want to have a fuck from someone who I don’t know; but thanks for the offer- I hardly know you…!

        The Debt Collector

        March 17, 2011 at 9:49 am

    • you cant smoke enough to kill yourself my friend. And if you keep reading about it, you will see that its not a dangerous drug. thanks.

      Taylor Groff

      April 6, 2011 at 12:54 am

  3. What a silly immature thing to say DC. By the jist of your post, you must be on some seriously dangerous drugs – maybe alcohol, maybe your still hung over from the night before and have decided to rant in your alcohol depressive come down?

    You DC and the man – keep on taking your alcohol which is a listed poison and all it’s intoxicants

    Moron

    Paul Smith

    March 5, 2011 at 11:44 am

    • Paul, whilst I don’t agree with what DC said, we should recognise that stigmatisation of ‘drug users’ is what helps perpetuate the ‘pot-head’ stereotype for Cannabis users, and we all know that doesn’t do our cause for reform any good. Yes, some people are ‘pot-heads’ and some people are ‘piss-heads’, but the majority use both drugs responsibly. Of course Alcohol causes more harm but going after people such as DC by labelling him(her?) for his drug choice (if it is indeed his chosen drug) you only serve to drive segregation.

      Stigmatisation only leads to more oppressive knee-jerk responses to stereotypes (http://www.alternet.org/drugs/150136/drug_users_of_the_world_unite!). Whenever things get more oppressive for the few they get worse for the rest of us. An example of this stigmatisation gone wild is Bhutan, where they have criminalised Tobacco and monks are being pulled up on possession charges with potential jail terms of 5 years over there!

      So absent harm to others we should not stigmatise people who use drugs that aren’t Cannabis as this doesn’t serve our cause, appears to place one type of drug use over another and puts us on a pedestal that just raises the height from which we fall. By all means highlight the difference in effects of (in this case) the two drugs, lack of regulation that leads to problems etc., but in my opinion, labelling people for the drug they choose to enjoy (if done responsibly and absent harm to others) is hypocritical in this manner and doesn’t get us anywhere. Far better to refute conjecture, opinion and ranting with fact, which gives us the higher ground and furthers the reform cause! 🙂

      Jake

      March 5, 2011 at 2:59 pm

      • Agree

        Just feed up of being judged by people i see in my own community whom knock back 2 bottles of wine a night and are still intoxicated 14 hours later whilst at the wheel of a car, feed up of being called a druggie by the guy half cut sitting on the Bar stool in my local pub

        Paul Smith

        March 5, 2011 at 5:01 pm

      • Yah it gets tiresome but you gotta see it as funny though…,

        jimbob

        March 5, 2011 at 5:04 pm

      • Paul, I more than understand your frustration!! But in the end we gain the most ground by maintaining a cool and level head, and back that up with evidence and fact. I’ve said before, that we have won the battle when it comes to the science/evidence/fact of this issue and we now need to win the emotive issue, but I have found patient and evidenced-based debate is far better than a shouting contest (I’m sure as everyone here has too!). You know.. unless they’re a Troll.. :-p

        Jake

        March 5, 2011 at 6:50 pm

      • Jake, regrettably the drugs I am on are NOT taken out of choice but prescribed by a Doctor trying to control my epilepsy.

        The Debt Collector

        March 17, 2011 at 10:14 am

      • DC, I have not seen you in such confrontational mood for some time. Your point of view seems to shift dramatically at times so I really find it difficult to keep up with which side of the debate you’re on at any given moment.

        Peter Reynolds

        March 17, 2011 at 11:04 am

      • Peter, you sound like an aged Headmaster !

        I am not jumping from one side to the other, I just dislike drugs. As for it being a “herb”, it could be claimed is tobbacco is one too.

        I was on Phenobarbitone, once considered like Cannabis to be relatively harmless, it is now a Classified Drug. I was lucky and got off the stuff before I became addicted. There are other epileptics who were not as lucky as me, and are still on the stuff and suffering the consequences.

        Perhaps the reason why you feel my view changes dramatically from one side to another, is because of the effects of the “weed” you are smoking whilst you are reading.

        As a point of interest I have looked up the websites Containing Roger Pertwee’s observations and in one sentance, he does indeed state that smoking the drug does cause harm. He does not endorse it, he merely states that by licensing it would reduce harm: subtle difference. Further he makes references to the effects of the drug triggering Schizophrenia and Paranoia.

        So to clarify my point and to make it clear to you.
        I dislike the drug, indeed any drug, it is far from recreational, and contrary to the popular view is addictive; no different to smoking tobbacco; and with perhaps more dangerous nervous effects.

        Perhaps you need to read more slowly Peter, and reduce your intake and then you may be able to keep up.

        The Debt Collector

        March 17, 2011 at 11:35 am

      • You have a damn nerve and an arrogance to preach to me DC! You have no idea what my “intake” is. In fact, I suspect you’d be very, very surprised if you knew how modest it is.

        As you seem to have no concern for manners or grace, let me speak very plainly. You veer wildly from one opposing point of view to another. It is self evident that you suffer from massive mood swings. There are dozens of posts on this site from you advocating the end of cannabis prohibition yet recently you’re taking a very “anti” position.

        I am quite certain that your instability is due to the large amounts of psychoactive drugs which you take which you so regularly tell us all about.

        Unlike you, I don’t seek to judge, attack or condemn. I value your contributions. Be under no illusion though, I won’t tolerate you going any further down this path of rudeness and incivility to me and other commenters.

        You need to mind your manners.

        Peter Reynolds

        March 17, 2011 at 12:18 pm

      • Peter,

        you remind me of Mr Evans from “Carries War”, when he takes his belt off to Nick for stealing the biscuit in the shop.

        You have to earn respect Peter, and the way you have ranted about the advandatages of this substance indicate that it may well be having an effect upon you. And there is nothing wrong with assertive debate, and if you read some of your texts, you hardly come to equity with clean hands.

        Keep your own door-step clean, before criticising others, Mr Cannabis. And again, thanks Mr Cupid for providing a source of infromation for constructive argument as opposed to the rantings of Mr Reynolds.

        And as I have said before Peter, you are a big boy now, not in the school playground neding to throw a stroppy; or is this one of the side effects the “weed” is having to you?

        Grow up man.

        The Debt Collector

        March 17, 2011 at 11:59 pm

      • Mr Collector,
        just keep on running away from the cure
        http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3162000.stm

        Cupid Stunt

        March 17, 2011 at 9:47 pm

      • Cupid,

        Thank-you very much for sending me this link; it is the first I have seen about the matter. I’ll take it up with my neurologist,

        Thanks again
        Regards
        The Debt Collector.

        The Debt Collector

        March 17, 2011 at 11:48 pm


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